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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 10:38:00 -
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ehehehe!
Scrapyard Jack is proud to be protecting the environment by picking up after such careless, thoughtless miners whose unfettered cargo containers are besmirching the beautiful landscape!
You drop it, and Scrapyard Jack will cheerfully pick it up. If you don't want Scrapyard Jack to do that, then don't drop things.
Theft may be a crime, but so is littering.
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 11:45:00 -
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"but hard work being stolen"
ehehehe!
Yes, and Scrapyard Jack recognises that sitting next to a rock automining and (potentially) using a macro program to jettison containers is "hard work"....
uh, wait.. maybe not.
Pick one:
1. Mine a full cargo load, go to the station and deposit.
2. Mine a full cargo load, wait until your corporations industrial comes, then jettison it.
But sit there semi-afk and repeatedly toss containers into the ether, and Scrapyard Jack (or someone else) is gonna come take it.
Scrapyard Jack, Scrapyard Jack, Will take yer ore, Won't give it back!
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 11:49:00 -
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"What do you do in a 0.8 system to stop it???"
Don't jettison your ore and leave it sitting in space.
Pretty simple, if y'ask ol' Jack.
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 11:59:00 -
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"eheheheehee and Phyo will be there in his Thorax with double mwd to blow your ass to pieces ehehhehe"
ehehehehehehehe!
Double MWD! ehehehehe! What's that leave ya, boyo .. 250 shields? 600 cap?
Let's look at the scenario, shall we?
You shoot Scrapyard Jack. Scrapyard Jack shoots you. Concord turns up. Concord shoots you. You die. Scrapyard Jack says "ehehehehe" a lot.
Scrapyard Jack flies a Thorax too, ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 12:09:00 -
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"In this situation a lot of miners would just stack all the ore in one container awaiting pickup."
When what they should do, (ehehehe!), is take the ore to the station until the industrial is available.
Lazy miners are the thieves best friend!
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 12:33:00 -
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"then some yahoo exploiting a loophole waltzes in and steals it from you"
Scrapyard Jack really doesn't have anything better to do right now, but thank you for asking.
Scrapyard Jack will reiterate:
If you jettison it, it's no longer "yours", therefore it can not be stolen.
If you're too lazy to mine properly and have to look for, ahem, loopholes to exploit to make your mining easier, then perhaps you, m'friend, are a yahoo, ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 13:36:00 -
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"It shows you never have mined much."
Too much, way too much, ehehehe!
"If you could take all the ore back to the station then why would you need it picked up in the first place :-/"
Mine, go to station. Mine, go to station. What's not to understand? ehehehe!
"As for not needing an industrial, well it takes so long to get the amount of ore needed to keep up production of a large corp that most people would go insane."
Mine in an Industrial ship. Lots of cargo space, but slow.
Mine fast, make more station trips. Mine slow, make less station trips.
Scrapyard Jack thinks the problem here is that you want to have 4 miner 1s and 5000 cargo at the same time!
Laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyzzzzzzzeeeeeee!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 16:55:00 -
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"BTW if you set your bags down to open your car door would it be stealing if I ran up and took them? They where just sitting there on the ground, so what if you where standing right next to it. You should have taken then to your car one at a time from the store."
Scrapyard Jack would like to present an innovative new technology: The shopping trolley, ehehehe!
Scrapyard Jack won't reiterate the superlative definition of the term "Jettison" that has already been provided in this thread, but would recommend that Damon reads it.
A poignant old Kevin Costner film comes to mind...
"If you fling it; Jack will come"
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 17:30:00 -
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"Good point, the shopping trollys a bit like a cargo container, you place your stuff inside untill it can be transported else where."
ehehehe!
The carrier bag is the cargo container. The shopping trolley is the indy.
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 17:47:00 -
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"Luckily: mining isn't real fun so lets kill crapass and have some fun!"
Oddly enough, Scrapyard Jack would consider that to be immense fun, ehehehe!
Especially seeing you obliterated by Concord.
Hours of fun, oh yes.. ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 19:10:00 -
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Booooooorrrrriiiiinnnngggg, ehehehe!
Ok, Scrapyard Jack just wants to make this point ooooooooonnneee more time...
Regardless of your intentions:
You didn't "put it down for a moment". You threw it away.
Scrapyard Jack is at a loss as to how this is so difficult for some people to understand.
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 19:19:00 -
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"I do understand what your saying. Your arguements are those of a 12 year old. If I park my car and go into a store, is it then ok for someone to take my car? No it's not."
Absolutely not! But if you jettison the car into a scrapyard, is it ok for people to go and take bits off it?
"If I leave my bar-b-q on the back porch of my house is it then ok for someone to walk up and take it? No it's not."
Of course not! But if you jettison your bar-b-q into the city dump, is it ok for someone to go pick it up?
"If I'm mining and I choose to store my ore in a container is it ok for someone come and take my hard work from me?"
If you jettison your ore into space, is it ok for someone to go pick it up?
You betcha, ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 19:54:00 -
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"warp/propulsion scramblers and then my 2 missile launchers and passle of combat drones."
A fine arsenal indeed! ehehehe!
However, bear in mind that ore thieves usually operate in Concord protected space. If you attack them, you will be attacked by Concord and be killed.
Also bear in mind that Scrapyard Jack flies a Thorax, has good fighting skills and has no need for mining lasers, ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 20:02:00 -
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"People should have options to take care of these parasites."
ehehehe! But they do!
Mine smart, and don't leave ore lying around.
It's completely avoidable.
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 20:20:00 -
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"See, even you call yourself a thief"
Scrapyard Jack never claimed different, however in the eyes of the game mechanics, there is no crime.
Scrapyard Jack's point is that cannister-mining is not "the way" to mine. Certainly, it is a method that increases the speed and ease of mining, however these benefits do come with a risk.
Namely, Scrapyard Jack (and associates).
Simply put, you should not be able to enjoy the benefits of 5 CU-Vapor bores/10 harvester drones and the unlimited cargo space that a cargo cannister offers. Certainly not with 0% risk.
If there is a crime here, it's yours, boyo!
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 20:31:00 -
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"neither should thieves be able to steal without risk."
Well, that's the thing ain't it, boyo?
In the eyes of the game mechanics, they're scavengers, not thieves hence, no comebacks.
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 20:40:00 -
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"Scrapyard you are a freakin genius. I bet there wont be a celebral booster for you for a long time, cause you are too smart!"
ehehehe!
Cheers, chuck!
Scrapyard Jack don't do too bad for a guy who was dropped on 'is head as a clone, ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.05 20:47:00 -
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ehehehe!
Scrapyard Jack is in Odatrik, Heimater.
See you soon, eh?
ehehehe!
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Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.07.06 10:03:00 -
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"I will also make it a personal ( and maybe corp ) aim to kill Scrapyard Jack at evry opportunity. You are a piece of scum...."
And Scrapyard Jack will make it a personal aim to collect up your corpses after Concord (with the noble assistance of Scrapyard Jack) reduce your shiny lil ship to the consistency of crab paste, ehehehe!
"My sec rating ? Bah ...wh cares . My sub will be cancelled if CCP doesnt sort out these loopholes ultra quick,"
Bah, crybaby!
ehehehe!
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